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Welcome to another episode of the Meet and Greek Barbecue Podcast.
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Today we are talking to Ian the Barbecue King.
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And for our longtime listeners, you probably would have remembered Ian from way back in 2021 when he was our fourth or fifth uh guest on season one.
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We're doing a bit of a catch-up episode.
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See what's happened.
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Four years is a long time.
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So without further ado, here's Ian.
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So Ian, back for a second time.
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It's been what, four years since we uh since we last saw the next four and a half years.
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Yeah.
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So welcome back to the podcast.
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How are you doing?
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Thank you.
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Well, not so bad, thanks, not bad at all.
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Um, quite a lot of water under bridge.
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I've retired since then, although I do have a little part-time job just to just to keep me taking over.
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Um yeah, grand grandfather now, which I wouldn't have expected four years ago.
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So yeah, life's good.
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Perfect.
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Still loving the barbecue, I see.
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Very much so.
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It's it's um god, it's a hobby that has just got hilariously out of control.
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But probably I'll tell you long later.
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But you've got you've got the dream scenario for me in the fact that you're retired, so you have all the time in the world to be able to plow into barbecuing.
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Although my father-in-law insists that for some reason when you become retired, you have less time than you did while you were working.
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Um, but as a reminder, before we go into that, because I want to know more about kind of retirement and what that means to you for barbecue, just remind everyone where they can see on Instagram and things.
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If they want to have a quick nose before we get too in-depth.
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I've got about 5,600 followers now.
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Um most of which are most of which are related to barbecuing.
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Although I do go off pista every now and again.
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I've got um an old Ford, hopefully feature classic, with its BBQ number plate, uh, which people say they're out every now and again.
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My wife has to wear a mask when she goes out on it because she was gutted when I bought it.
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Um but yeah, it it's it's um it's been quite a journey, there's no doubt about it.
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So picking up then, I suppose a lot can happen in four years.
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Uh as you as you've already as you've already said, but um I suppose give us the potted history catch-up.
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What what's been what's been happening since uh been happening?
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With me, I'm gonna be barbecuing.
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So I retired three years ago.
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Um lasted about a month and got a part-time job, just really keep me out of the mischief.
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Um, my wife, she still works full-time, Maggie still works full-time.
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Um, and at some point we'll both sail off into the sunset.
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So that's that's for the future.
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Andrea's actually got her retirement date sorted, and she's got lots of plans for the next year, um, which includes some holidays.
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Um, we always make sure that everywhere we go away, there's some barbecuing to be done.
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Which she does get a bit sick of me email saying, Do you have a Weber?
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Um is it charcoal?
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Uh is it gas?
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Well, if it's Gas and I'll be my Weber go anywhere.
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Uh so it that does it that does um that that certainly, you know, it's it's a prerequisite when we're going old in the UK.
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But yeah, things of you know, from from initial barbecuing, um, when I had my weather performer, and we've still got it, it lives in the garden.
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It's I've had it probably six years.
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It's still the best Christmas present I've ever had.
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Um, but from having my weather performer, I had a count up, just made some notes before before we did this tonight, and it's now got seven barbecues, um, which is absolutely crackers because we haven't really got a big garden.
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Um, and we've got a pizza oven as well.
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We're on our second pizza oven, we won't the first one out.
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And so it's it's it's just crackers.
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It has got hilariously out of control, but we love it.
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And uh whilst you know, well, we're putting cook outside now five nights after seven.
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We actually cooked inside tonight.
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I'm recooked insight tonight.
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That's the first time we've got viral.
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But it's just it's it's it's it's a fantastic hobby, it's a brilliant community as well.
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I know you guys, we've got plenty of other people.
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Um, and it's just it's just fabulous.
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You know, it is good for your mental health.
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It's a terrible thing to say that.
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Well, it's not a terrible thing to say, but it is good for your mental health.
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That's all I enjoy doing.
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It it gets me out the hangs in the garden, do new things, and hopefully I'll become a better cook as well.
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But uh time will tell on that.
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So, uh, what what does the collection look like now then?
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So what about pizza oven and the performance?
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I've got a pizza oven, a wood fired pizza oven.
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I've got my weather performer still, still got a web of 47 centimetre, which comes out with us on occasions, but a weather go anywhere, and I've got two commodos.
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We went to um the BBC Good Food Show after after our first um after our first podcast, and it was fancy the commodity, but I was a bit bit frightened of them, and we met the guys at Barbecue Bits.
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I don't know whether you've ever come across them before.
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They're a company, I think they're in the south of England, just uh a relatively small company, but I bought my first Camado there, it was and yet another great Christmas present, and I didn't know them until it got delivered and I didn't know until Christmas.
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Whereas small, it was just uh probably a 14 inch, probably mean 16 inches, um, and it more or less gave up the ghost about about a month ago.
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The um the the firebox had a lifetime guarantee, but I reckon I'd used it about 750 times.
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So I scroll to the guys at barbecue bits, and they did say, you're right, yeah, it does have a lifetime guarantee, um, but they just couldn't get the firebox, so it gave me an opportunity to buy another one.
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So I've got a bigger 21-inch and come on the home now.
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So I've got those, and also got two Conroes as well.
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So I've got I'm trying to look like James Martin, but it's not really working out that way.
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My wife would love to be, you know, she's seen James Martin with his Conroe grills, and I've got a small one, and then last year I think we bought a bigger one.
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Um, and it's a brilliant piece of kit, uses that um bin chan, whatever charcoal, and it it it's it is a fantastic piece of kit.
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So yeah, I've got the most of the outs.
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Um it's seven in total, and they all get used as well.
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I love the fact you've done the classic man thing of well, if you're gonna fiddle with what I'm doing, I may as well add a bit of girth to it, you know.
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That's right, that's it.
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Bit of extra length, bit of girth.
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If I can pick it, that's what I'm having.
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You're absolutely right.
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I mean, we get through some charcoal.
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There's no getting away at some.
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Well, on that point, you've become a brand ambassador, haven't you, for Green Green Olive, right?
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Yes, actually.
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I was I was um Dan McCarthy's the um the owner of Green Olive.
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And we're just channeling, I guess I'm they're my brand ambassador for them.
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Um they'll do me a bit, it's Instagram presence.
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I'm gonna I do don't do any YouTube stuff.
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Um, I'm even gonna need TikTok stuff.
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I I do a bit of Facebook, but I'm not a massive, you know, don't do a load of Facebook.
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But Dan McCarthy, he saw the original, uh, my original podcast with you guys in 2021.
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And they reached out to me.
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And uh yeah, I've become an ambassador for them.
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And that's you know, hopefully up spreading the word, it is it's amazing charcoal.
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There's no doubt about it.
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It's all UK produced, it's 100% sustainable, and they do, they do um they do kill and dry wood as well.
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So best of both worlds for me.
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Um I go down the garden center, I go down there too often to be honest, and just fill the basket up with with charcoal and firewood.
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So I was just like thinking back when when I was first barbecuing, and I used to go to Little and Aldi and place like that and and buy like 40 bags of charcoal.
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Um, and it's now it's certainly quality over quantity.
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So yeah, great.
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I've never met the guys that'll be in Olivewood yet.
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I know I think they were down at Sizzle Fest.
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I think they were the charcoal sponsors at Sizzle Fest last weekend.
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We couldn't make it.
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Well, we keep threatening a big party somewhere on the down in Surrey.
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I'm up in East Yorkshire.
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But at some point I hope we all get together because it's um I suppose that's been part of my journey as well.
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And it's it's it's again it's part of the community, but it it works really well.
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Yeah, yeah, I mean we see we I to be I do see him around a fair bit.
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Um uh but I I actually haven't tried it yet.
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I've not tried their their charcoal, but I have heard I have heard good things.
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If you give it a go.
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I mean they have um I did a I've done um I've done three now again as as part of like um as part of of getting the word out.
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And people do know who I am now, they have a good giggle about it.
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Um but I did a I did a um I do an annual show at all local shows.
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About two and a half thousand people turn up and and that spreads the word a bit for them as well.
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Um it's it gets me out of my comfort zone and it scares the life out of my wife as well because I've got a microphone and loudspeaker.
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Um whilst um whilst people don't understand my Jordy accent of being kept on a very short reign, because I did tell a joke a couple of years ago, which I thought was absolutely brilliant.
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It was really, it was a really filthy joke.
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It went down, it didn't go down very well.
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I did run it by the committee first.
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Fantastic joke.
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It's actually a really conly joke.
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I'm not gonna tell it here, just by the fact that it's very, very funny because I'm under orders.
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But um, it's it's good fun, Matt, and it's it's part of um, I suppose part of my development.
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I'm always one uh push myself out of my comfort zone, and that kind of thing really works.
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So a bit and they've asked me back.
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I've been there three years in a row now, so we must be doing something there, okay.
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We did a collaboration with a butcher this year.
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And um, if ever you want the rain, if you want the rain, then you just book me to do a barbecue show, and it just absolutely scythes it down.
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But it's uh it's great fun to the Android, and all right if Andrea helps out, it's good fun.
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And what do you normally cut so uh again?
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I don't think that happened obviously last time that we spoke, but obviously clearly you know, going in and talking to and doing demos and talking to people is uh certainly that you know part of that journey that you were discussing.
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But what I suppose what do you how do you choose what the right thing to try and demo to people that perhaps haven't seen or do barbecue on a regular basis?
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The quick answer is I do as I'm told from the wife, and and Andrea will say this is what we're doing Ian.
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Um and it in fairness, the first year we you know, we we didn't panic, that's the wrong word, but there was an awful lot of prep, and we did some, and it was all given away, it's not stuff that we sell, it's just uh stuff that gave away, and we did some salmon dishes, um, which weren't really well.
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Anything else we did the first year?
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We did um it may have been some steak, I can't remember, but it was stuffed.
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The the most difficult thing because the first year I did it, I did it with a guy who did cocktails, so he's on for half an hour, he does cocktails, cocktails are instant, barbecuing is not so instant, so you've got to do something.
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I mean, yeah, I mean, I can talk behind legs off a donkey, I can talk forever, but you've you've got to do something that cooks reasonably quickly.
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Sounds a great example.
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We did some skewers um year before last did some pineapple and pork skewers and marinated all the pork the night before.
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It's a proper uh challenge to get everything there on the day.
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Umfortunately, there's um there's a a local butcher in fact, she's a pig farmer.
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She sits on the committee and she brings her van around and packs all my barbecues up.
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Um and she's she is it's called Anna's Happy Trotters, actually, or Anna's Happy Kitchen, the base in Howden where we live.
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And she's a proper, I think, well, very, very good pig farmer.
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So she owes the name of it and stuff as well, and it works really well.
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But this year we did it in collaboration with another butcher.
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So the butcher brought out Silarius because he he he um he got his he brought his van down, and there's like a great big beast coming out of the back of the van.
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And then um, as well as doing some burgers and some sausages, which went down really well, they demonstrated how they covered the various bits of beef and pork as well.
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And then it so he was doing that, then I was cooking it.
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So it as a collaboration, it worked really, really well.
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Um, don't know what the plans are for next year, um, but it it it's just good fun, apart from the fact that it absolutely let us down every time it really does.
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So it's always in July, and I think goodness me, in July things should be sunny, but I don't think we've had a sunny one yet.
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But it can be difficult because they say that like a cocktail guy, he's there, there's your cocktails, boss have a bit, you know, and you can sample them, whereas it it's a much more difficult thing.
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I took my Conroe down this year, um, we did some skewers on it, and they could really, really quickly.
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I tried to look like James Martin with my Conroe, but it didn't quite work that way at all.
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But um it it did, it it's it's just good fun.
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Yeah, it's um I I I hadn't really truly appreciated the issue of kind of cooking to paste if you're talking to people barbecuing-wise at these shows.
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Um, the only thing that I have seen someone do to kind of break that up if you're doing like a longer cook is when I went to Sean The Irish Eggs barbecue school, um he was doing a brisket as part of the school.
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And his his point was the brisket I've already had to have on because of the amount of time it takes.
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Yeah.
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However, I've done a video of the trimming, the prepping and everything.
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So he put that on behind him as he was talking them through that, but also made like a barbecue sauce while he was talking them through that.
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So the brisket effectively, I mean, it was cooking during the the actual um class.
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But I suppose you could, if it was resting, you could be talking them through the prep and stuff if you had a video behind you.
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Cook the barbecue sauce with instant and then cut and serve.
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But otherwise, uh so much of that style of barbecue being low and slow must be hard to try and discuss on a stage like that.
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It's very, very difficult.
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And and despite the fact I love me barbecue, and I don't do a great deal of low and stuff, low and slow, can you say the low and slow stuff?
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We were at Sizzlefest a couple of years ago, and uh Marcus, Marcus Borden, isn't it?
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Yeah.
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And Marcus Borden did demonstrate, and he's obviously the consumer professional, and that's what he does for a living.
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Well, they did a similar kind of thing.
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I think it was with the tomb hook, and the um he the the guy butchered it, and then he was cooking it as well, and it took about it probably took about 20 minutes, but he's a consummate professional.
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I'm just a daft jordie who likes to talk a bit, and um, but it's it it works.
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I mean we we um we got asked to do um well it does get round and and it's it is just a hobby that has got out of control, as I said.
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We're gonna ask to do uh a 50th birthday party for some guys, um and we said, well, how many people are gonna be?
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So it's probably gonna be about 25.
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So Rhino came.
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He came along, he picked me, he picked me Weber performer up, and then he um he had brought me 47 centimeters a cattle down as well.
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So there was about 35 people there, including uh a rock legend was there, which was hilarious.
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I I heard that he was coming, but um John the Parr of St.
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Elmo's Fire fame.
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Um you're you're too young to remember these songs, but there wasn't.
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No, I I thought that was like a Sesame Street character that got a bit out of hand with a flamethrower, you know.
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No, the St.
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Elmo's Fire was the proper film, it was the St.
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Elmo's Fire songs for Munoman, but it was with the American number one.
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But John Parr came along with his barbecue because he was best mates with the guy, his 50th of us, and his mates, and again we did salmon and some chicken stuff, and we prepped it all.
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And this other guy turned up.
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Well, I've met a couple of times since he's a real nice guy, and he said, No, he said, Can you do um I brought my own couple size of salmon?
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I brought a couple of the birth as well.
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So, can you just cook those as well, please?
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Like, not just right, I'll kill them.
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But that well, that was the start of it.
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That people do they do ask us.
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I mean, just a few weeks ago, there's another, I think it was another 50th birthday party.
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Someone who who we know, just in the in the local town.
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And Gabby said it to me, he said, uh, it's it's Ed's 50th.
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Will you do a barbecue?
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Yeah, go on course we will.
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And Andrew, my missus looking at me, you know, for Christ's sake, yeah.
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You know, yet again, here we're going.
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You just said, Yeah, I'm going, we'll do it.
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And they came round the week before because they were getting a bit trepidatious because they said, Well, you know, what have you what have you organized here?
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And and they came down to our house, and I'm yeah, whatever you want, we'll do kind of thing.
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And uh and they said, Well, how many people are coming to this party?
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And they said, Well, about 60.
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So there's um about 45 adults and um 15 children, so you'd be cooking for 60.
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And it was quite envious looking at me, he said.
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I can't believe you've done this again, Ian.
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Um, we um we did a we got a magnificent rump piece of rump, rump piece, uh a bit of rump beef, and uh we got it from the local butchers, and I think it was about 120 quid this bit of beef, and you just like chuck it on and up for the best.
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Well, you don't know.
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I'm a bit I am a bit bit bitter than that, suppose to give myself credit um for your popping up the thermopen and hoping that it's all gonna turn out, and it was magnificent.
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But I took um I took my Weber performer down, took two Conroes down, my Weber Go Anywhere, and my little kettle as well, all set out.
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I actually look quite professional, you know.
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Yeah, no idea.
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And it was the first time we've done something like this for well forever, really.
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Um and it turned out okay.
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Uh it's it's all about the prep.
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And you know, Andrea, Andrea worked hard on the prep.
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I mean, I I did the cooking and Andrea helped as well.