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Today's episode is brought to you by AOS Kitchens, the South's leading outdoor kitchen design and installation specialist.
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Meet and Greet Barbecue Podcast.
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Today we have another stateside guest.
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We are speaking to Sarah at Meet Me at the Smoker.
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Have a look, Google, go on to her TikTok page in particular, is fantastic.
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Instagram, all of the social medias, and it's a really great episode to hear about her cooking experience and what she does on that huge smoker.
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But she can tell you about all of that.
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So without much further ado, here's Sarah.
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So hello Sarah.
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For anyone who doesn't know who you may be, please do introduce yourself and uh welcome to the podcast.
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Hi, I am Sarah.
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I'm from South Louisiana.
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I'm a Cajun girl, as you would call it.
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Got a bayou accent.
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And I smoke all my meal prep every weekend.
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So that's what I do on TikTok and YouTube and all the social medias.
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Well, it's so great to have you on the show.
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We've been following you on TikTok and Instagram for quite some time.
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Uh and and I can notice just behind you the very small smoker that you've got.
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Oh, yes.
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That is my small smoker, a beast.
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So just how uh obviously we've seen uh a load of your social media videos and things that you're you're cooking on.
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Then we'll come onto the cooks in a minute, but some of the things that we've seen recently, look you you know, you're literally having to climb onto the smoker just to put the the the chimney up.
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I mean, how big is the smoker?
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It is huge.
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I can give y'all a look real quick, but I do have to climb on top of it because there is not a way to for my body to lift it up standing on a ladder.
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So I have to get that power doing a squat lifting it up.
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It is heavy.
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Well, at least you don't need to go to the gym.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Great work.
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It's a gym workout.
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I've done some workouts with it, like uh in my TikToks, it's pretty funny.
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But uh, people are always like thinking that I'm gonna fall or something, but it's way wider than they can imagine.
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Like I'm standing flat on it.
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It's I'm I'm fine unless I become 60 and can't do that anymore.
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Um, I love the name as well, like a great pun for Meet Me at the Smoker, which is fantastic.
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But where did the journey start for you in regards to smoking and grilling?
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Oh, it all started with my husband.
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He bought the workhorse pit about five years ago, but I'm the cook, so I kind of took over, and then we started doing social media, and that's where it started five years ago.
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So I've been meal prepping for five years on the smoker every weekend.
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And when you when you say meal prepping, you are you literally cooking for the whole week ahead?
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Like everything.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we cook for the whole week.
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I never cook during the week.
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Um, we weigh out all our food.
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We are prepped, ready to go.
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Supper, lunch.
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We're we fast, so we don't really eat breakfast.
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So I don't have to worry about that.
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But we do eat a lot of meat.
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As it should be.
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Yeah.
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My husband eats a pound a day.
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That's why everybody's like like a pound just for lunch, and then more for supper.
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So everybody's like, wow, that you're cooking for an army?
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Like, no, I'm just cooking for my husband.
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A one-man army.
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Yeah, a one-man army.
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How how do you plan all of that out?
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Uh, do you have like a rotation that you do like different weeks throughout the month, or do you have a stock list of kind of recipes that you decide to go through?
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So it's just kind of what we feel like eating lately.
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We've been on a brisket kick and chicken.
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So we've just been eating brisket and chicken for the past four weeks.
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Uh, before that, we were on the pork butt kick.
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We'll get on kicks, like and just eat it for like a few weeks and then switch it up.
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It's just all about like what we're in the mood for.
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Sounds good.
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And so with the um obviously with the prepping, um, and if you're doing a lot of smoking at the at the at the same time, are you finding that you're doing different meats at the same time as well?
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So therefore, you're kind of continuously rotating meat throughout the smoker and moving things around.
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Yes.
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Like when I first get started, I put the brisket on and I let that smoke by itself because I closed my smokestack for about two hours because I want it to be really smoky.
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And then when I open that smokestack up, I add all my chicken.
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And then it can and then once all the chicken comes off, then I add some ribs and then some bacon and then the green beans and then the tallow and all the good stuff.
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It fits everything though.
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It it can change everything.
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I was gonna say I'd be worried if it's worried if it couldn't fit everything in with the size of it.
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Yes.
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What's the largest thing you've done in it?
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Just a brisket so far.
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Uh and it was like a 21 pound brisket.
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So it wasn't that big.
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It's it looks small on the smoker.
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See, I'm now googling.
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I'm now googling what 21 pounds is.
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Yeah.
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I need a whole pig on there.
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I'm googling what 21 pounds in kilos is.
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Uh it's about nine and a half, nine and a half kilos, which is about the the largest I've ever cooked in terms of a brisket.
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Yeah, that was my biggest brisket probably yet.
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What was that, 14, 16 hours job?
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No, it took about 11 hours smoking, and then it rested for a good yeah, about 14 hours total.
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We never get to eat it that day because it's always done at like 11, 12 o'clock at night.
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I'm not about to eat brisket at that late.
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I mean, there could be worse things to eat at 11, 12 o'clock at night, but yeah, I appreciate it.
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That's true.
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So we've um so during the kind of podcast and other episodes that we've done, we've spoken to uh a number of guests in America, and I think the conversations that we ended up having there seems to be quite sort of regional styles uh of barbecue.
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So is that the same in Louisiana?
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Is there kind of certain meats that are pre preferred or certain you know flavor combinations that are you know local to Louisiana?
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Yeah, so here, but here um it's not really uh barbecue, it's more like your ruse, like your gumbos, your e touch, uh boil curlfish, stuff like that.
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Um, but meat-wise, we have our cajun season, and you know, that's always good on meat.
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So we stick with that.
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Cajun season is what I would recommend.
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Like, sorry, I'll you go.
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No, I was just gonna say, obviously, if you know, uh with like crayfish and gumbo and things that you were you were mentioning.
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Do you do much of that in terms of smoking sort of fish and seafood on the barbecue as well?
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So I don't do much seafood.
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Um, I have done salmon before.
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Um, but usually like I'll smoke my chicken and I would do a chicken sausage gumbo with that.
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Or like a chicken stew with that.
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And it's so good.
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In the UK, compared to kind of a lot of the dishes that you're talking about there, we are, I mean, British barbecue's come a long way from what it was known for.
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I mean, if you go back into maybe 90s and 80s, we were known very much for uh burning the outside of sausages and burgers and the inside still being raw, but it's always great to be speaking to people with such kind of dexterous cuisine and trying to give different ideas and inspiring.
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So, for anyone who might kind of not be too aware about kind of the flavor profiles and everything that goes into things like the Cajun spices, the uh gumbos and things, how would someone from the UK start even trying to think about putting those types of dishes together?
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It might sound like quite a simplistic question to someone like yourself, but it's a very different cuisine over here, and it's always exciting to get the chance to eat those types of things.
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So we we use a lot of seasoning, we're big on salt.
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We love salt, so it's a lot of salt, pepper, garlic powder, onion powder.
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It's like a mixture of that.
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Lots of it's a little spicy, but more salty.
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It's so hard to explain.
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It's cooking from the heart, isn't it?
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It's that family gathering people around, enjoying it.
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You don't measure your seasoning, you just season till your ancestors tell you to start.
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I like that.
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So you might go through a lot of salt then if it's if a lot of the season being salt-based.
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We go through a lot of salt.
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I buy the big salt, probably last us a month.
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Okay, that that is a lot compared to us.
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I mean, the problem we've got is our ancestors liked everything bland.
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You know, if it could have just been on the side, that would be good.
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So we're still trying to get there.
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Uh again, I I think our cooking style and cuisine's come a long way over the last kind of 20 years, but uh it's it's still very different.
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And that's why so many Brits go across to America on holidays to experience what we would call yeah, true, true barbecue, true different cuisines, you know?
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Yeah, oh yeah.
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We um we just had two guys from the UK come to Homa and all and experience the cuisine.
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Josh and what I forget their names.
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They're big on TikTok.
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We do try and get around because uh there's there's just there's not that sort of scene yet in the UK where I mean Owen and I were talking last week, and in our local area, and when I say local from your point of view, it's probably very local, but from like a British point of view, you're talking about surrounding kind of 30 miles.
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There's not really any kind of smoking barbecue proper restaurants that we're able to go to.
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So a lot of what we have to do is off our own back.
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Uh, London's come a long way, there's a lot of options for us and London wise, but otherwise it's what we can find online and try and copy and replicate.
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And uh again, the meats are very different than we have over here as well.
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Oh, yeah.
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See, we um we have some barbecue restaurants around us, like probably 30 minutes away, you know.
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So that's kind of competition for me if I'm gonna sell it, you know.
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Yeah.
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But uh the good barbecue restaurants are like two hours away.
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Right.
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You know, if you want to get a good brisket, you gotta go two hours away.
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And I can make it at home.
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So why would I do that?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Right.
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That's what I was just about to ask Sarah, actually.
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Like, you know, when you when you start getting into something like barbecue and you can start making some pretty decent meats and and smokes at home, do you feel like when you go if you do go out, it just I don't know, you become more picky.
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Well, I can probably do that better at home.
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I'm I am very picky.
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We we are we are not big fans of going out to eat because like I just know my steak is better.
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Like it's so much better.
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I could do it better at home on some coals or my brisket, like it's not dry.
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I don't know.
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It's cheaper too, and you get more brisket.
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That is true.
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That is true.
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So just out of interest, then also you've got the big smoker sat, you know, sat behind you there that we can see.
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Um, do you have any other barbecues or or or grills or anything like that in your collection, or are you just a one one smoker person?
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So I do still have my 1969 workhorse pit, and I just have this one.
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So I only have two for now.
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I will eventually be letting go my workhorse pit, though, because it's just I I always use this one.
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And some of those techniques you talked about as well.
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How did you go around kind of developing those and learning those during that journey?
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So my husband literally taught me everything I know, like that from learning the internal temperature and wrapping the meat.
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Um, we kind of started smoking the food together.
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He taught me how to shred all the meat, cut the brisket, trim it, all the things.
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And then I also like looked at Heath Rowles on TikTok and YouTube and all the big gurus.
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Um so just out of interest, what when you kind of obviously the meal prep is I'm gonna go right back to the beginning now.
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You know, you're talking about meal prep and you do everything for a week.
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Do you typically do a is everything more on a low and slow basis, or do you still do some hot and fast grill, you know, hot and fast style cooking?
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Um, I'm assuming you can probably do something around the firebox, couldn't you, where you can do some hot and fast.
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So yeah, I can do hot and fast, but I I stick to low and slow because I like a smokier taste.
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I just find everything tastes more smoky when you do it that way.
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Um, hot and fast.
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I've tried the pork butt that way before.
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I didn't like it as much.
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So I stick with low and slow.
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Is there a particular wood uh combination?
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You know, do you do you stick to one type of wood or is there a combination?
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What's your normal kind of smoke?
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So I am stuck with oak right now because I'm stocked up with I mean trees from the hurricane we had a couple years ago.
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We went collect all around the roads, getting all the wood.
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So we have a bunch of free logs and racks right behind me.
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Not gonna show because I have so much stuff back there.
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I mean, oak's a great choice for brisket, right?
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It is, and we just cut down a pecan tree, so I will have some pecan as well.
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So those are the two I kind of stick with.
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That's what we got around here.
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So that's where I step wet.
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What about y'all?
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What can y'all use?
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Uh uh oak for sure.
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Um I don't mind a bit of apple or cherry.
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Um a bit of sweeter stuff.
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Uh, I think more for pork.
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Um and then when I so I've got like an asado style, so a like an Argentinian style that you could kind of uh bring the uh grill up and down and put it over the flames.
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I normally use a beech or an ash uh ink sort of uh English tree.
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Um but half the time it's what I can get my hands on.
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I would love one of those.
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Maybe one day I'll add that to the smoker uh collection.
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It's pretty new.
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I've only had it for a few months, so uh still still getting used to it.
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But yeah, they are great fun.
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That's cool.
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That's so cool.
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I'm um I'm I'm stuck on cherry at the moment.
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I absolutely love how it smells when you're smoking with it.
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I've got a comado that I do most of my bits in, and I just love the profile it gives, particularly to beef.
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You know, I think kind of beef short ribs with cherry on are absolutely stunning and I love it.
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Um, I've done quite a bit with apple wood as well in the past, but I I keep coming back to cherry.
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A lot of it I think is because if I know that I'm gonna be smoking something for anywhere between eight and 16 hours, I just like that smell being around.
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Yeah, yeah, it does smell good.
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I have smoked with that wood before, but we quit buying it since we're stacked up.
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Yeah, why would you?
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Why would you if you've got all that good quality milk to use?
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Do you not find Dan that with cherry, especially with beef, it's a bit it's a bit too mild in terms of smoke flavour?
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I think it depends how what what you're doing with it and how you're smoking it.
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If you're gonna be doing like uh a Texas crunch or something like that, you need to make sure that you're definitely getting enough time under the sort of with the smoke, I should say, before you wrap it too much and or or even boat it to make sure that it's getting the smoke the whole time.
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But um, more and more often I'm trying to get through it without having to wrap it.
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Uh, the difference being with any kind of British beef that we're using, kind of grass fed it, it doesn't have the same sort of level of marbling that um the American meat has.
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So you've got to be a wee find anyway.
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Unless I'm using imported meat, I've got to be so much more careful about smoking it over those sort of times and making sure it keeps moisture in.
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Whereas if you're wrapping it, you can add a lot of moisture in there to kind of help that.
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But it it can, as you rightly said, oh, knock back a bit of that kind of smoky flavor you're getting from the cherry.
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But have you ever done a foil boat brisket?
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Yeah, um, I've I've done it a few times.
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Yeah, smokier, yeah, because you've got the top out to be able to do that.
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That's why I do it that way.
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I love the smoking taste.
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Yeah, exactly.