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Welcome back to another episode of the Meat and Greet BBQ podcast.
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As you would have heard by now, we released a couple of episodes.
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Haven't got to a full season yet, but me and Dan are just chewing the fat and seeing where we're going.
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So, dan, how you doing, mate?
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Yeah, good thanks, very good indeed.
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It's been nice getting back into the flow and doing some more cooking and having people over, and I think Owen and I had that period where we both fell out of love a little bit with barbecuing again, but we're both heavily back into it, and what a time when the sun's coming back out and we can enjoy longer hours outside.
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I've been doing more of the traditional British barbecuing though things like a load of sausages, doing them offset, getting a bit of smoke in them, serving them as hot dogs or cutting them up, even smoking them and putting them in Yorkshire puddings as like smoked sausage toad in the holes using the blackstone that I've got to do quite a lot of smash burgers and also some breakfasts as well.
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So things like American pancakes, which is lots of fun, particularly if you do cook them in like butter and bacon fat.
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Lovely, lovely stuff Now that you've got the love back into it.
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I only asked you how you're doing.
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I'm excited.
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It's nice to be back and to have the passion back, as it were.
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Just before we kick into barbecue.
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I love the difference between us.
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So this is a Friday night and you're sat there with what I'm assuming is a whiskey and coke.
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Of course I'm rock and roll with a peppermint tea Lad.
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I've had two glasses of cider and all my peppermint tea, and it's only hopper state.
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Well, you don't want your throat and voice messed up, do you?
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Little precious boy in the corner um the so blackstone.
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Yeah, interested to know, um, have you used the air fryer?
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Because you've.
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Obviously I've got the inverted commas, old model, um, but you got, uh, you got the one with the air fryer.
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Have you given that a go?
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yet.
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So with the inverted commas new model, I have not, and the main reason for that is I don't have any outdoor sockets in this house.
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I need to get an electrician over to do it.
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Extension cable Well, I could do, but I don't really have like a proper waterproof one, and I want to set it up in a way that it would permanently be plugged in when I start doing it.
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Just from a laziness point of view.
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I mean, it sounds like an excuse.
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Oh yeah, it is.
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Let's put this out there.
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It is nothing but an excuse.
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You know, I haven't been asked to plug it in, but that's because I've been barbecuing on it, which is part of the questions I had, and it's not a criticism.
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It's just not what I use a barbecue for.
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I can see why people would, particularly with the whole.
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You can cook things quickly on it like you would with other gas barbecues.
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Although I love the flat top, I really enjoy that, and if you've got that added bonus of being able to use it as an air fryer and you want to be cooking outdoors more, I get that.
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I just haven't been asked to plug it in.
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Is that bad?
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I don't know.
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No, I don't think so, just it's there.
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I just wondered if you used it.
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And if you have used it, how good is it, you know, in comparison to a normal air fryer?
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Well, I also haven't used a normal air fryer.
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I think that's possibly part of the problem.
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My brain doesn't even think oh, I could do that in the air fryer in the Blackstone.
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I think you should stop, just for the sake of following this up in the next episode.
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Just run an extension cable out, plug it in, have a go, come report back to us.
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You run an extension cable through.
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You set it up for me.
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Do you know how much effort it is for me to lean down to my right and touch the plug socket that's empty, that I can retouch right now and open this French window that is within arm's reach, to run a cable out to a blackstone that's roughly five yards that way.
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It's so painful to do.
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You do it for me.
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Sounds it.
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So I want to start off this episode with a public apology, this episode with a public apology.
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So recently we obviously went to see Sean at Irish Egg in his barbecue launch and we did an episode on the way home and one of the very specific questions you asked me was Owen, are you in the market for a new barbecue or are you looking at getting one?
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And I categorically said no, I'm content with what I've got.
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I lied to myself, I lied to you, I lied to the community.
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On that point, did you?
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Or has Captain ADHD kicked in and your hyper focusfocus has gone back onto barbecuing, which I love?
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I'm not going to criticise you for, but you've always been all or nothing with these things, right.
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Very much so.
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So since, yeah, since those couple of episodes and that kind of visit, I've been barbecuing almost every day oh lovely stuff, beautiful, I have actually got rid of my Traeger.
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So I had oh lovely stuff, beautiful, I have actually got rid of my Traeger.
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So for the first time, obviously, building the collection, I have actually got rid of one.
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So I got rid of the Ironwood 885.
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I was only using it for big gatherings and breakfasts.
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You used it for breakfasts quite a bit, didn't you?
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Yeah, I kind of used the Blackstone for that, or the Weber, or actually in the Delavita for you know, like a one pot in a cast iron dish for breakfast and that, but anyway.
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So my wife wasn't so keen on getting a new one, you know, in terms of space, so it was a one-in, one-out system.
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So I got rid of the yeah, I got rid of the Traeger Wives, so it was a one in, one out system.
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So I got rid of the uh yeah, got rid of the traeger wipes are quite like that.
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Oh, you mean the barbecues, right?
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I?
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get it, I get it, I get it yeah, I get it yeah yeah, exactly, uh and um, we've spoken about live fire cooking and that type of thing, and I was toying between an offset and something a bit more live fire and uh, yeah, I've, uh, I've decided to go all in and, even though this in a couple of weeks time, when this gets released, I'll have.
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I'd have had it for a couple of weeks, but it arrived just today and I've gone for a somerset grill, the asado type grill, and I've just seasoned it this evening, hence why I'm so happy and smiley.
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I've just been out there just playing with fire, uh, on a friday night.
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So, uh, yeah, I'm super happy and you're coming over tomorrow so I'm doing the first cook on it, so that should be interesting, um, but yeah, I'm really looking forward to to playing with a new toy.
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After categorically saying I wasn't going to buy any more, uh, I've spent the most amount of money I've ever spent on a barbecue, so I've gone for the polar opposite, but very much looking forward to giving that a bash, I tell you.
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So I'm bringing over a gammon joint that I bought for Christmas and couldn't cook because Steph's dad wasn't feeling great on Christmas morning.
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I'd got it out to cook and I thought, right, I'll chuck it in the freezer then, if that's the case.
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And then five hours later he knocked on the door and came in and I was devastated that I'd then frozen the gammon and not cooked it and I haven't really had a purpose to cook it.
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So I'm defrosting it now.
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It's sitting out there, or 1.88 kilograms of it.
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Um, so, hopefully thor properly overnight.
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Bring it over and we can have a have a go on that together.
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You know some male bonding kind of rub it up, get all our seasoning on it, rub it on me, that's it exactly.
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But um, what?
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What are you?
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What are you preparing for tomorrow?
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Have you thought about what meat you're going to do?
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Are you just going to go down the butchers and flirt with them, bat your eyelashes and see what you can get out of them?
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proof is, I don't know.
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So obviously it's maiden voyage, so you've got to be gentle.
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You've got to be gentle.
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You can't break it in too hard.
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I think obviously we'll do.
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Obviously we're going to cook a gammon on there just to see how that turns out.
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I mean, I kind of want to try a steak On an offset.
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Sorry, On the offset.
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Well, no, on the got an offset.
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I don't know why I said offset.
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I'm tired and I'm drinking whiskey.
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But yeah.
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So I don't know, but maybe some.
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Oh, that's why because I've been trying to convince you to buy that Yoda for fucking years.
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I want you to get a Yoda as well.
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Owen, if this is going to be the start of you buying more barbecues, promise me you'll get too no, I will get.
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I will someday.
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I will get an offset on sunday.
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I actually really like the leviathan pit that element yeah yeah that that looks a really, really uh, super machine.
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But um yeah.
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So truth is I'm going to go down to the butchers tomorrow see what they've got thinking some steaks, maybe some char charred veg to go with it, or maybe chimichurri or something like that on a steak With your gammon.
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We can also get the cast iron dishes out and maybe do like a glaze, cook a glaze into the gammon, et cetera.
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So yeah, we'll just see where the day takes us, but very much looking forward to it.
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I'll tell you what I would love to do, what I've always dreamed of, if I got an Asado.
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But you wouldn't do this because you don't like it.
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I'd love to do a lamb, stick a whole lamb on the cross opened up and just let it cook over time, dripping gloriously into it.
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I know you're not a huge fan of the meat.
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Would you ever consider doing that?
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Just because it's the classic, to give it a go?
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I just yeah, I'm just not interested in the lamb, to be fair, but obviously what it does lend itself for, because it's got like a pole that runs across the top and obviously you can, you know, elevate and drop down the grill at the grill level so you can cook low and slow as well as high and fast and that.
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But you can put meat hooks in there so that you can obviously, you know, you see, kind of hang the meat off it, exactly on the meat hooks and stuff.
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I mean it lends itself to stuff on the bone, but you know, like tomahawk steaks, for example, but you end up spending so much money on the bone rather than the actual meat itself.
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Do?
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you know what I mean.
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Stop saying on the bone, because we can Google Boner.
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But yeah, so complete contrast, literally two weeks ago when we recorded the episodes I love it, though I know how your brain works.
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I was like, if he's getting back into this, I just feed a little bit of a little bit of fire, a little bit of flame.
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Maybe, maybe we can get something in there.
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And, to be fair, I still really want to and I'm sure I'll get over the next few months uh, either a kadai or a big like cooking bowl that can be used in a similar sort of way like live fire cooking.
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So I you know I'd be lying if I was pretending that I wasn't extremely jealous, but equally I'm very excited to come over tomorrow, start cooking some stuff for fun.
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Um, what about something like a pineapple?
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Because the amount of times we've had hung pineapple over live fire and we always love it Is that something else we could do tomorrow?
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Yeah, pick something up.
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Yeah, quite probably Ham and pineapple, right.
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Mm-hmm.
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I hadn't even thought about that.
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I hadn't even considered the ham and pineapple.
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Look at you, little genius.
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Well, or gammon and eggs, right.
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So we got a little cast iron dish cook some eggs on there.
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So, hey, world's our oyster, although I don't want to cook oysters.
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But uh, yeah, I'll tell you what, though, since we last met, I've I think I've just I got into the, as I said, we you know we were, we were so infrequent in terms of cooking, but I've literally been using as much as possible yeah, and I think I told you last time that, um, where there's been a couple of barbecues that I've not used for such a long time that you know, I opened them up and they were just truly disgusting.
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Like I had to get, I got the jet wash out and just absolutely hosed everything down.
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It was it, it was true, it was absolutely disgusting.
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However, but what it then gave me an opportunity to do is where I obviously cleared out all the crap and and jet washed it down and then I basically lit them up and just run them as hot as possible just to burn any other crap off.
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But then I thought, thought, well, that's clean, now Might as well, bloody, use it.
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So I've actually been kind of going through.
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So in the last week and a half I've cooked on the Oni twice, I've cooked on the Delavita twice, I've cooked on the Weber, I've cooked on the Royal King Keg, I've backstoned a couple of times times.
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I've literally just been working my way through, but kind of doing a bit of everything really.
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So from, you know, pizzas to breakfasts, to one pot dishes I did a big um, uh, like a chili con carne on the weather the other day.
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So I'm really not just burger, you know I have done some burgers and I have done some sausages and I've got a fail to tell you about in a minute down, but, um yeah, I've essentially just anything, any any.
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You know, got back to doing anything on the barbecue rather than just a brisket or just some sausages or whatever.
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So I've been using a lot of cast iron dishes and just using it as a tasty oven.
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So, just going back on what you've said, do you think that the fact you hadn't used the barbecues for a while so they've got a bit manky do you think that was a big reason why you'd put off going back to them for a long time?
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It was an extra excuse, or do you think that was just a byproduct of not?
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being asked.
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No, it was just a byproduct of falling out of love with them for a little bit.
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But there was a couple of times, you know a month or two ago, when I opened them up and went nope, you know, put the cover back on.
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I thought that's a tomorrow problem or that's another day's problem.
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Just that's a tomorrow problem, or that's another day's problem, just like rocking backwards and forwards, crying Don't go in there.
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Laura, it's alive, yeah, but anyway, yeah, it's all good and actually I feel better in myself, right, because how many times have we spoken about it's always really good for our well-being and I appreciate we're probably covering a little bit of similar ground to what we did a couple of weeks ago but genuinely just feel much happier.
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And I think, obviously, the sunshine right, we've had two and a half three weeks of glorious sunshine.
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I just think all the combination of a lot of a lot of you know things, uh, definitely in a good headspace.
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It's such a stupid, stupid fail.
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But do you want to hear about my fail for this week, always?
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So, first and foremost, I went to a new butcher's.
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Mm-hmm.
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Felt like I was cheating on my old butcher.
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Such a dirty little bitch you are, aren't you?
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So anyway I went to a new butcher's and anyway they had these chili.
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They looked really nice actually and they were pretty dungus, these chili jam burgers.
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So it was what day are we today, friday?
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So it was Wednesday.
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Got home from from work, just quickly fired up the blackstone.
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Uh, kids wanted halloumi so I was cooking this.
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Quite, it was quite good for halloumi, cooking the halloumi there, cooking the burgers, did some onions, all that kind of stuff and I got, I cooked everything and of course you used in the spatula right, I've got one of them big spatulas to to kind of move stuff around blackstone and I got so excited, as I was taking my plate of food in from outside, that I was like, oh, there's a little bit of halloumi or something stuck on the end of the spatula, went to, uh, kind of get it off, not realizing it was still nuclear hot and I've burned all my lip.
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Oh because all of the um, all of the jam, of course, that were coming out of the burgers and stuff, and then god, did it stick to you as well yes oh no I've got like a.
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I've got I don't know if you can see it that that well here, but literally just straight away singe my lip, and it's all been a bit bluey black.
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Uh, the last couple of days.
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Just, it's jam when it's hot.
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Right, it's so hot well, yeah, because it's literally caramel, it's just boiling sugar.
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That's literally what they used to use as like torture yeah.
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Needless to say, there was a few few swear words to myself.
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What a stupid thing to do needless to say, you had the last laugh, alan partridge.
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Um, that, that goes through me.
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So when I was back like 15 16 at school, um, in the summer lunch times we used to go walk down to a kebab place that was quite close to school.
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They used to open up and do pizzas and one of my friends bought like a pizza, not thinking as soon as they passed it to him, just opened it up, took out a slice and a bit of cheese, hit on his hand and literally melted to his hand.
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And when he peeled it off, the skin came off with it and to this day he's got a huge scar on the back of his hand from like two seconds of cheese being on it.
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And the second you talked about, that jam sticking to your lip, just literally went through me.
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But I reckon I would have laughed a lot if I was there at the time.
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Yeah, probably because you're a mean old bugger.
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I'm a lovely, lovely man who.
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Have you got any fails then?
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Yes, I do.
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So I started cooking again more often, just like yourself, back on the monolith.
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Um, I was quite lucky in the sense that I hadn't completely stopped barbecuing, so I was still barbecuing maybe twice a month, rather than how often we were doing, particularly when we first started this and we were barbecuing pretty much every day.
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Um, hashtag, lockdown.
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Uh, what else were we meant to do, you know?
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Um, so I haven't had the cleanup issues that you've had, but, um, I did.
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I did a big cook where I knew that the barbecues can be on for the day.
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We had people coming over and, a bit like yourself, I was like right, I'll just run them on a lift for like four or five hours and I'll do multiple courses over time.
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I did like sausages cut up, had them as kind of picky bits with sauces and stuff.
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Um, I did burgers.
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Um, I did some chicken breasts offset at about 180, 190.
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That took about 30, 40 minutes to do Just kind of just not direct, like, deflect the plate and everything around.
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I did some other bits and pieces as well.
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I did mac and cheese on there.
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But at the start of the day I was like I know what I'll do.
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I'll get some potatoes, lube them up with a bit of olive oil, a bit of salt, a bit of pepper, wrap them up in tinfoil and I'll chuck them in the fire in the bottom.
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And I always find if you do that, they kind of go quite nutty if you leave them over a long period of time, really, really nice.
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Completely forgot about them.
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Completely forgot about them.
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So like maybe a week or two later opened up the barbecue, as I do, and then start brushing all bits out.
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I was like what the hell?
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I don't use briquettes, why, why is this metal?
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And I mean they shrunk and went all gnarly.
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And the fact that I'd left them in there for like a week and a half what?
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did they taste?
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like Absolutely right, oh, magnificentificent.
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Some of the best stuff I've put in my mouth.
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I've never felt so enjoyed.
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They were rock solid as well.
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I reckon if I dropped them they would have bounced.
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That's the sort of it was.
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So, yeah, I've told myself if I ever do that in the future, I'm going to put an alarm on my phone.
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That's just like potatoes.
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So told myself if I ever do that in the future, I'm gonna put an alarm on my phone.
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That's just like potatoes.